Jenny Seagrove says ‘woke tradition is taking away all of the enjoyable’

Jul 29, 2023 at 10:36 PM
Jenny Seagrove says ‘woke tradition is taking away all of the enjoyable’

Would-be actors are being pushed away from a profession on stage due to wokeness and lockdown, says TV and theatre star Jenny Seagrove.

She believes that whereas “woke” tradition has led to some enhancements within the appearing world it has additionally taken the enjoyable out of the career and turned sure areas into “minefields”.

The actress provides that lockdown has modified folks’s notion of labor and made many would-be recruits draw back from the unsociable hours of appearing.

Jenny is showing in a brand new play alongside Martin Shaw – her on-screen lover in hit ITV drama Judge John Deed.

In Alone Together, written by The Archers actor Simon Williams, they play a pair divided and navigating challenges in a world of grief and disconnection.

Jenny, 66, has a protracted relationship with the theatre. Her accomplice is producer Bill Kenwright, who has been Martin’s finest pal for 40 years.

Martin and Jenny each consider theatre performs an important position within the nation’s cultural panorama – however Jenny mentioned she anxious about these contemporary to the appearing world. She mentioned: “I came across someone entering the business and saying, ‘I don’t want to do this, I want a life’, which I can’t understand because it is my life.

“But people got used to easy hours in lockdown and they want their evenings and their weekends.

“We don’t have that on stage or even filming sometimes – you give up your life. I often joke that work does get in the way of my social life but it’s a vocation. A lot of people now are coming into the business and saying, ‘this isn’t for me.’

“I find that really sad.”

She mentioned that whereas welcome in some areas, woke tradition had made performing much less enjoyable. She defined: “The business is changing in a way. I am going to add to really difficult territory here but it has changed because of wokeness.

“It’s not as much fun as it was because you really do, and quite rightly, have to think before you give someone a hug, and think about what you say all the time.

“It’s sort of become a minefield. It used to be a real community and a family of people who were spontaneous and, yes, sometimes inappropriate. But actually sometimes when you are among people you trust the inappropriate isn’t inappropriate.

“I’ve worked with people who really got in my space and who abused me and it’s not nice, but the business has changed. An awful lot of the fun has been lifted, so the compensation of giving up your life, as it were, to become part of this family – you start thinking ‘I am not sure if I want to do this.”

She mentioned this added to the difficulties to a sector already buckling after the deprivations of the pandemic years. The hospitality and leisure industries had been hit significantly arduous by lockdown, and the present cost-of-living disaster has made the scenario even worse.

She mentioned: “The industry is being kicked and it’s not really recovered, you know. I run a charity and we have some elderly people who actually support us financially and I said I was doing this play and they went, ‘We used to go to the theatre all the time and we got out of the habit. We just haven’t got back into it’.

“And there is the cost-of-living crisis so it’s even less possible to go to the theatre. It is just tragic.”

Martin, 78, who starred as Doyle in The Professionals, mentioned that social interplay was as important as medical interventions when it got here to common well being.

He defined: “Somebody once said to me if there were no theatres there would be more people in hospitals and I took a minute to think about that. There was a survey recently about what is the most life-enhancing and life-extending. They had all these lists you know, vitamin C, exercise, sleep.

“It found social interaction is more important for extending your life and keeping you healthy than sleep, vitamin C or exercise.

“An incredible thing about theatre is you’ve got this essence of social interaction because you’ve got people on stage. You are socially interacting to the point of exhaustion in order to get your experience to 500 or 1,000 people if you’re lucky. You’re socially interacting with their concentration and comradeship.”

Jenny agreed, saying: “I actually think he’s right because what happens on stage sometimes profoundly affects people.

“It can just be as simple as having someone having a laugh when they need it. It can be a life lesson. It can be incredibly valuable.”

Another downside for these eyeing a profession on stage was the shortage of appearing in faculties, Jenny mentioned. She argued that this could assist kids talk in particular person in an more and more digital world.

She mentioned: “I’m on a rant now, but what about theatres in schools, in education? It’s nothing like when we started. It’s about young people learning to communicate. The way society is going you won’t see other people at all, in fact let’s all be AI.”

But each are enthusiastic about their new undertaking that places them onstage collectively. They have beforehand carried out in productions of each Love Letters and The Cherry Orchard.

Yet whereas the pair are agency pals they’re seldom mistaken for a pair, laughs Martin.

He mentioned: “It was always very clear that Jen’s partner, Bill, has been my oldest friend for about 40 years and that Jen and I have been friends for about 25.

“It’s called acting and we can switch it on and off.”

Jenny provides: “I did get an awful lot of, ‘God he’s sexy. I’m really jealous!’ at the time.”

She mentioned she had seen Martin on tv final week and admitted: “I did zoom in and he is tasty.”

But may Judge John Deed, which attracted 9 million viewers for its finale, make a comeback?

“The door is always open as far as we’re concerned,” mentioned Martin. “Nothing would please me more but I don’t think the BBC would do it. I think they’ve moved on.”

Jenny added: “Maybe it’s best to leave them wanting more.”

● Alone Together premieres on the Theatre Royal Windsor, Monday August 7 to Saturday, August 19 www.theatreroyalwindsor.co.uk